Apple Working With Health Gorilla to Offer Comprehensive Medical Records on iPhone

I like that my doctor is the only one with my medical records. I'm curious how secure that data will be in an iOS app.

Personally, I trust my iPhone/Apple over my doctor's office as far as encryption and security go.

If you come in to the hospital and not responding, how does this help get them the info? They are still going to identify you by your id and from there search for your medical records in their database. There should be a unified database for all health providers, if this is a step in that direction, then that is great.

I'm not trying to argue that this will be useful to some for changing doctors or going to a specialist(even though you were probably recommended to go to that specialist by your family doctor) but it's still a bad idea to carry medical records on you.

I work in an emergency room and I could see this being extremely valuable in the specific scenario you mentioned, an unresponsive patient without family/friend there to give at least a bit of their medical history. Pacemaker? Allergies to medicine, blood type? History of strokes, heart attacks? On any medications? We can already add this info to the medical ID, accessible on the locksceeen without a password.

While it would great if docs had a unified system to look everyone, I’m already imagining situations where having medical records on the phone could save lives. Security is a huge issue obviously, perhaps they could utilize NFC (which they’re opening beyond Apple Pay). Store the info on the secure enclave, then you can either consent to sending it to physicians/hospitals or authorized facilities can access this info with some type of secure terminal that’s only available to emergency rooms or something. Idk how they’d implant it, but there’s definitely some interesting opportunities.

Besides I already trust apple with my credit card information, email, contacts, messages, photos, etc. I’m certainly concerned about privacy, but if any of my information were to “leak”, I’d prefer it to be my X-rays and bloodwork than my texts and pics. Some people definitely have more sensitive medical information than I, things that could be damaging to their lives, but that can’t be the majority of people though, right? And obviously it’s opt in, so no harm in giving access to the rest of us. And as someone who handles your medical records on a daily basis, whatever apple implements is likely to be more secure than what we’ve got.

Long comment, but I love medicine and I would love to see Apple take a deeper dive in this sector.
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Sorry, but Obamacare did away with that. Doctors were forced to adopt digital records and enroll your records in a massive national database, such as EPIC, where pretty much any health care person, e.g., doctor, nurse, etc., in the country can access them. It's a very non-secure system, so I predict it will be the next major breech where we all learn that our medical records were stolen and are floating around. Without starting a political flame war, there is a price to a big brother approach. Again, sorry to be the one to break the news to you. Your privacy was good while it lasted.

Sorry, but Obamacare did away with that. Doctors were forced to adopt digital records and enroll your records in a massive national database, such as EPIC, where pretty much any health care person, e.g., doctor, nurse, etc., in the country can access them. It's a very non-secure system, so I predict it will be the next major breech where we all learn that our medical records were stolen and are floating around. Without starting a political flame war, there is a price to a big brother approach. Again, sorry to be the one to break the news to you. Your privacy was good while it lasted.

I agree with part of your sentiment, but wholly disagree with your main message. Electronic medical records are really the only logical way forward, I couldn’t imagine an alternative.

Let’s say you come to my hospital for chest pain, first you get an ekg, then some blood is drawn, then you’ll get a chest X-ray. The EKG is the only thing printed, blood is sent to the lab and results upload to our electronic chart as soon as they’ve been run, X-rays are transferred to the radiologists as soon as the pic is taken, who will then type in their interpretation on your electronic chart. I’m fairly young, so I don’t even know how hospitals used to run. Would the lab technician run the results over, would the radiologist call the information over every time (that would be a lot of phone calls and a lot of annoyed emergency docs today). Electronic is the only way forward.

Big brother is a real threat, I get that. NSA spying on citizens is terrible. The apathy towards giving major corporations access to your info, despite knowledge they will sell it, is troubling. But I don’t think we should stop progressing because of these things. Would you neglect the light bulb because it has allowed people to see in your home more easily? Terrible analogy, but you get my point. The only way forward is to to be vigilant about the use and access of all of our personal information, but to keep pursuing technology advancements that will make life more pleasant.

This is total BS. Wait a minute. This needs to go through Congress. Apple should not be allowed to create medical dossiers on people without MAJOR government oversight. PERIOD.
Oh right. We're just supposed to trust somebody because they put out a legal blurb. Don't be so naive.

I read your quote and another more famous quotes came to mind.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge." You're quote is written as if you know something that's relevant to the topic. Apparently, you took no time to actually research what the company does and what the relationship with Apple means.

Apple is not creating medical dossiers on anyone. Apple is attempting to provide people with a quick access repository for their health data. It's entirely voluntary. No one has to avail themselves of the service. The medical information is only aggregated and shared among your doctors if you 1. sign up for the service. 2. have doctors that use the service. 3. give explicit permission for your data to be aggregated and shared. The key here is you have to choose to do this. Apple can't make you and neither can Health Gorilla. Why on earth would this need to go through Congress? Are you telling me we need congressional approval to use an aggregation app? That's absurd.

Oh, and no btw. You're not supposed to trust somebody because they put out a legal blurb. You're supposed to actually research the available information out there and make an informed decision regarding whether or not this is something you'd be interesting in doing. What you're not supposed to do is use Facebook logic and ALL CAPS to make an invalid point about a nonexistent issue. All that's missing from your quote is a factually inaccurate meme .jpg.

I like that my doctor is the only one with my medical records. I'm curious how secure that data will be in an iOS app.

Bravo, Apple. This is heading in the right direction with iOS. The car can wait, but all things health can & will be a game changer if you can get this implemented pronto as in before Sammy steals it!

If you come in to the hospital and not responding, how does this help get them the info? They are still going to identify you by your id and from there search for your medical records in their database. There should be a unified database for all health providers, if this is a step in that direction, then that is great.

I'm not trying to argue that this will be useful to some for changing doctors or going to a specialist(even though you were probably recommended to go to that specialist by your family doctor) but it's still a bad idea to carry medical records on you.

It isn't a question of the extreme case of being non-responsive. It's a matter of a fully-conscious patient being unable to explain (for instance) all the drugs they are currently taking, and their doses. Or to describe, in with some medical detail, the surgery they had four years ago. Or drug allergies. For an older person with multiple medical issues the numbers of drugs they are taking and the procedures they may have had can easily number in the dozens.

It is utterly ridiculous that hospitals expect patients to remember this at all, let alone be able to relate it when they are probably in the worst state to recall it accurately. Because of this lack of information hospitals are often attempting to reconstruct a medical history and they often end up giving patients drugs they are not prescribed for a reason. If you've spend a lot of time with the medical system, or has/had an older parent who did, then you will know exactly what I am saying.

As for being non-responsive, last I checked your fingerprint still works when you are unconscious.
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I work in an emergency room and I could see this being extremely valuable in the specific scenario you mentioned, an unresponsive patient without family/friend there to give at least a bit of their medical history. Pacemaker? Allergies to medicine, blood type? History of strokes, heart attacks? On any medications? We can already add this info to the medical ID, accessible on the locksceeen without a password.

I wish I'd seen this before I responded. You said it all, and a lot better than I did.