Vivaldi Web Browser 1.13 for Power Users Gains New Multi-Tab Management Features

I've long been reading GeekWebGuides but signed up to post this. I am a designer working at Vivaldi.

Since nobody refuted it, I figured I would sign up to say that Vivaldi is not built with Electron. Electron is a great framework for getting powerful products to market quickly. Vivaldi is built for the long haul, and we have decided to use Chromium directly. This gives us more control, though there are more things we need to build ourselves.

There is no "server" used for serving up the UI, but there is parsing of Javascript. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. :)

Sure, Safari is the most power efficient browser on macOS, but if you are a power user who wants to do more than watch YouTube videos or only have 5 tabs open at the same time, it's pretty painful to use. As long as you use uBlock Origin or another good ad-blocker, Vivaldi is actually not that heavy on your battery, and it can handle large numbers of tabs better than many other browsers if you also make use of the built-in Lazy Tab Loading and Hibernate Tab features.

Vivaldi has a ton of features that I can no longer imagine living without. Just to list a few:

* Vertical Tabs -- so your tabs don't turn into a giant pile of partially identical favicons when you have more than a few tabs open (especially on a laptop screen), and so you can still read the titles of the 12 Amazon tabs that are currently open
* Quick Commands -- an in-browser spotlight that allows you to quickly jump to a specific tab, open a bookmark or page from your browser history, issue browser commands, etc.
* Compatible with pretty much all Chrome extensions but without Google's tracking crap
* Lazy Load Restored Tabs and Hibernate Tabs -- for less resource usage
* Better bookmark management than most other browsers
* Take 1:1 screenshots of full webpages (not just of the visible area) -- this is especially useful for pages that print to PDF very poorly
* Tons and tons of customizability -- you can change every single keyboard shortcut, theme the interface colors or let them be affected by the current webpage, customize tab handling in two million ways (e.g., remove the close tab buttons if you use horizontal tabs and regularly close tabs accidentally), etc.

If you are the type of person who is happy with TextEdit.app as a text editor, you likely won't appreciate Vivaldi. But if you are someone who actually makes changes to the default settings of an application and who is willing to spend a minute or two on figuring out stuff to be more efficient in the long run, Vivaldi might just be the browser for you.

Thank you for clarification, I didn’t know that. I was pretty sure, you guys using Electron, it’s a big difference. Suddenly, Vivaldi looks like a pretty interesting proposition...

For us the biggest difference is that by following Chromium we have the chance to provide security updates in a timely fashion. Electron is sometimes several releases behind. I just checked https://electronjs.org, it seems like Electron still is on Chromium 58, whereas Vivaldi is on 62.

Web browser on Electron? No, thank you.
If someone doesn't know, this is a wrapper for Node.js server and Chromium. To put it simply, it has a whole server inside and a copy of Chrome browser to render interface. Result is a memory and CPU hog. This is most cheapest and cruelest way to develop multiplatform "native" apps (notice quotes). The one who pays here, is the user.

I've long been reading GeekWebGuides but signed up to post this. I am a designer working at Vivaldi.

Since nobody refuted it, I figured I would sign up to say that Vivaldi is not built with Electron. Electron is a great framework for getting powerful products to market quickly. Vivaldi is built for the long haul, and we have decided to use Chromium directly. This gives us more control, though there are more things we need to build ourselves.

There is no "server" used for serving up the UI, but there is parsing of Javascript. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. :)

Love seeing people who are part of the company/information active on the forums!!

While I'm not a user currently, I'm going to dl today and give it a try. I work with Patents and its regularly have 50-100 tabs open and Safari just it to frustrating for this. I hope that it will eventually have a Tab Sorting feature, if it doesn't already. When you start comparing Patent Claims A to Patent Claims B, but you have to cross reference those against Patent C and D because of likeness you can easily see how organizing Tabs and being able to view Tabs Side-By-Side is crazy important!!

Also, I support Competition so LONG LIVE Vivaldi, FireFox, Chromium!!!!!


UPDATE: Just downloaded and LOVE the Tab Stacking! This will make Patent Searches and Comparisons SO MUCH EASIER!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

Web browser on Electron? No, thank you.
If someone doesn't know, this is a wrapper for Node.js server and Chromium. To put it simply, it has a whole server inside and a copy of Chrome browser to render interface. Result is a memory and CPU hog. This is most cheapest and cruelest way to develop multiplatform "native" apps (notice quotes). The one who pays here, is the user.

Electron might be a resource hog but that isn't necessarily bad, besides this also isn't a browser for everyone. There is no browser that has as many features or that has developed as many features in the period of development. I can count with one hand new features that Google has introduced in Chrome in terms of functionality in maybe the last 5 years and with the other hand the ones they removed just because people didn't use them(ie. tab stacking). Since Vivaldi came out with the first stable 1.0 release they've now had 13 major updates, each with at least a new feature. Even with what you call a downside, Vivaldi runs perfectly even my basic $800 laptop with 8GB of RAM even with more than 20 tabs open all the time. Just because it runs Electron doesn't outright mean it runs slowly. The browser could even be a little slower that I wouldn't care due to its features(quick commands, web panels, search nicknames, not having to give up on Chrome extensions, tab stacking with multi view, screenshot).

Well, cheap and fast are interchangeable here: you can hire more developers and development would be as fast, as with Electron, but the cost and complexity of the project would rise.
I absolutely agree, that Electron has it's place, but this is starting to get ridiculous, it's not only chat apps, we have IDEs, browsers on Electron now. What's next? A full blown operating system? This trend is worrying and I advise users and developers to be cautious about it.

Are you a developer? If you were, surely you would know that more developers and more money doesn't mean faster development. This idea of throwing money and people into a project to make it go faster is the biggest misconception of software development by people who aren't developers. Sure, with more people and with good development techniques you maybe could build more complex things but to say that you could add more developers and go just as fast as if you were developing natively(which could possibly mean no Chrome extensions and much slower/weaker multi platform support) is very far from true.

I do agree that the trend of Electron can be a bit too much but I'm willing to ignore some of it's downsides for the advantages it brings.
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I see the phrase tossed around a lot in various subsections, but what exactly constitutes one being a "power user"? Particularly in this context, i.e. web browsing?

Power user, for me at least, is someone who kind of uses and abuses the features of, in this case, software. I'm a power user, I like my browser to have a lot of features that enhance my browsing either making it faster or easier to do things.

ie. tab stacking with multi view(tab side by side) - on Chrome would need a window side by side but it would be in a different window which would make it confusing.
Web panels with programming language documentation.
Search nickname - do you search a lot of websites? you can set up searches for youtube and when you search for "y <insert music>" it searches for youtube. Or search IMDB by creating a "imdb" nickname, etc.
Quick commands or custom keyboard shortcuts to open tabs, search in specific websites, open bookmarks that have an alias, Clicking F2, writing "git" and I can immediately go to Github.
Built in screenshot functionality.