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Apple's Bid to Use Chinese Chipmaker as Leverage Backfires

Apple's attempt to use Chinese memory maker CXMT as leverage against Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix has backfired, with the two Korean chipmakers ending up with more pricing power rather than less, DigiTimes reports, citing South Korean and Chinese trade press.

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This year, Apple has explored CXMT and fellow Chinese chipmaker YMTC as potential DRAM suppliers, and had progressed to testing CXMT's chips as memory shortages pushed up the cost of almost all Apple devices. Apple hoped a credible Chinese alternative would pressure Samsung and SK Hynix into cutting their own prices, a tactic it has used before with OLED suppliers and contract manufacturers.

CXMT is barred from EUV lithography tools under U.S. export controls, so it has to rely on older DUV equipment that, per a cost analysis cited by TechTimes, requires around 30% more wafer starts to produce the same output. That extra cost means matching Samsung and SK Hynix's prices is CXMT's floor, not a discount it's able to offer, so when Apple pushed for a lower LPDDR5X quote, CXMT turned it down and held pricing at or above the Korean suppliers' own rates.

With that threat neutralized, Apple seemingly lost its main point of leverage. Digital Daily reports that Chinese device makers Huawei and Xiaomi have already locked up most of CXMT's output through long-term, high-price contracts, so the company doesn't need Apple's business badly enough to negotiate.

The result is the opposite of what Apple wanted; without a credible cheaper alternative to point to, Samsung and SK Hynix face less pressure to lower their own prices, at the same time they're shifting production toward high-bandwidth memory for AI servers and tightening the broader DRAM supply. The setback comes after Apple's CXMT plans drew pushback, with politicians demanding Apple commit to not buying Chinese memory chips at all.

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Top Rated Comments

Doomtomb Avatar
11 weeks ago
Maybe Apple should use their hundreds of billions to build their own DRAM if they can’t get it. I’m sure the Trump administration would be in support of that especially in America.
Score: 22 Votes (Like | Disagree)
11 weeks ago
I think this article mischaracterizes Apple's main reason for approaching Chinese RAM makers - it wasn't to put price pressure on Samsung and Hynix (and Micron), but to simply get enough memory! Another article elsewhere pointed out that those manufacturers have already run out of capacity until 2027!
Score: 21 Votes (Like | Disagree)
11 weeks ago
Every time this comes up I feel I must mention the conversation between Steve Jobs and Barrack Obama. Jobs told Obama then what must be done. And it wasn't news even then.

We could have started working on this problem almost two decades ago. But nobody ever did anything. It's not just one administration to blame, it's a systemic problem.

That wasn't about RAM specifically, but we've still never gotten any kind of advanced silicon manufacturing happening in the US since Intel was king.

Maybe it's time they start teaching people how to write efficient programs again.

After all, 640K used to be enough for anyone.

Edit: here's a link to the best story I could find in a few minutes searching to give some background to what I'm talking about: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/staff-74
Score: 18 Votes (Like | Disagree)
dannys1 Avatar
11 weeks ago
But remember there's a group of people in this forum that refuses to believe there is any such RAM shortage.
Score: 18 Votes (Like | Disagree)
repoman016 Avatar
11 weeks ago

It takes several years to build these facilities, and the minerals required still need to be imported. That's why the Trump Regime's idea is dumb.
I've been hearing it takes several years to build these facilities, for several years now (since 2020)
Score: 14 Votes (Like | Disagree)
PsykX Avatar
11 weeks ago

without a credible cheaper alternative to point to, Samsung and SK Hynix face less pressure to lower their own prices
In other words, there is a cartel and no prosecution's being done. Got it 👍🏻
Score: 14 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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